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Now, now, Susan---aren't you at all concerned for our national security?? You know *those* immigrants could be plotting some kind of terror, and you're helping fund it. Tsk, tsk.

*a wink and a smile* from one dewey-eyed, internationalist liberal to another...

"Now I've recommended that gardeners partake of this ready labor pool many times and seen frightened looks and sometimes shock that I hire these men by myself, even allowing them in my house to use the bathroom."

People are so quick to judge, and the unknown is always scary.

Compare these guys to the hobos dislocated from their homes during the dustbowl and depression... And what do you see then? Most of them are just looking for better opportunities, and have braved much to get here.

I do have issues with 'illegals' but not with the individuals - rather with the whole process and the draconian veiw the government takes. Seems like there should be some kind of answer, short of The Great Wall of China/ Berlin/ Texas.

As you can imagine a lot of things in Hawaii are exotic, including our immigrants legal or otherwise. Until recently the current modern immigrants into Hawaii were primarily from the Philippines, South East Asia, all of Polynesia, Europe and Australia.

The past decade’s surge of refugees from California settling here has included the help following behind them. Mexicans and Latin Americans now constitute a growing presence in the islands.

In my line of work I have had the chance to encounter a good share of willing workers from other countries.

By far my favorite and most lovely assistant for three years was a very handsome multi lingual (French, English and two dialects of Tahitian) gay Tahitian Mormon Hula dancer with a Spanish last name. After much prodding through his Mormon prudishness I found his Tahitian great grandmother had been knocked up by a Spanish sailor in the late 1800’s and had a son, the patriarch of his now large family.

It seems immigrants legal and otherwise have been traveling the globe for centuries.


"It seems immigrants legal and otherwise have been traveling the globe for centuries." I like this observation. It helps me think of the immigration issue in a slightly different way. Such a complicated subject.

"people who manage somehow to leave their impoverished towns and get here, then bust their asses at two or more jobs to earn a paltry $900 a month and SAVE A THIRD of it to send home to their families. It's done by living in small apartments with lots of other people, by never or rarely eating in restaurants" This is what most of our immigrant ancestors did, you know, the ones who came through Ellis Island. Looking at census records, I can piece together that an awful lot of my Italian ancestors lived in the same apartment, and had jobs like laborer, parquet floor installer, etc. Looking at immigration records, I can even see that my great-great grandfather entered the port of New York twice: once by himself, and again three years later, with his family. My guess is he was saving up to bring them over.

Have you read The Tortilla Curtain by T. C. Boyles. No answers, but it will make you think.

I LOVED Tortilla Curtain - great idea for a post. Thanks.

I'm with you, Susan. These guys deserve our admiration and respect for their hard work and astonishing ability to save, support their families, and do hard work for long hours. I've worked for a number of social service agencies and seen the full spectrum of poverty. I'll live next door to a family of immigrant laborers any day!

In my part of the world (South Carolina), these guys are invaluable labor - hardworking and very trustworthy. I have friends who run an Herb Farm (www.petesherbs.com) and my friend is now learning spanish and is helping the guys that work with him to learn better english. It's a fun environment, and this new (and extremely industrious) labor force has really benefited my friend's business - and provided solid jobs for these guys.

I clicked on this post expecting to see the usual rants full of xenophobia and tinged with malice that you encounter on GW when this issue comes up.

Imagine my surprise when what I read where thoughtful responses. Congrats to the responses above.

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