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This is timely! I have been questioning the current map since it doesn't seem to apply anymore. I thought the map from the Arbor Day Foundation was more accurate. What surprised me and shouldn't have is that the map is of concern to gardening companies.
Of course, I believe that local gardening authorities should set local maps as well so that between the USDA map and the local map we could have better information.

Scientists shouldn't argue because the old map remains the same.

Gardeners take risks, thats what we do. We learn our zone through experience and risk.


Leaving the map as is based on real weather is another sign of the phony climate change hysteria...........

The TROLL

The gardeners who quit gardening when plants die are certainly not out there reading hardiness zone maps! (No, they're in the garden center at my workplace, looking for maintenance-free gorgeous color for dry shade.)

I thought Chicago was 5a with 5b starting half way down state. There must be a very small area bordering Lake Michigan in the city.

Glad there is a new map that meets the logic test (assuming it does). There will always be small areas that don't quite work with the general map so I think the very detailed ones that get into microclimate areas are a good idea. We have the bandwidth so why not, I say! Still, the overall general maps need to reflect the majority of an area so there will always be people who wonder why things don't work the same for them.

Not only does Lake Michigan have a tempering effect on the weather, but the City has the heat-island effect, although the green roofs are an attempt to undo some of that heat island effect. The suburbs to the north of the City along the Lake are Zone 5b, as are those to the south, but the Northwest and Western 'burbs are solidly 5a, we're the ones who had the -21 a few years back, and -18 to -20 this past winter. I hope that clears things up.

Nice that the new map is supposedly more accurate, but just because a plant is rated hardy (or not) in the zone you're supposed to be in doesn't necessarily mean it's going to survive (or die) in your garden.

There could be other factors affecting the microclimate -- soil diseases or pests, or your own particular gardening habits could be unsuited to the plant's needs.

Or, for a -21 degree winter, there could be a nice thick 3-foot snow cover that keeps things alive.

Frankly, I'm sick of hearing how businesses need scientific information to reflect things they want consumers to hear, rather than actual data.

I'm in Zone 5b, and Zone 6 plants are surviving in my garden just fine.

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