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Oh, but if no buildings are put on that land, then they can't get as much in taxes! That's what drives politicians, and nothing else. What are a bunch of vegetables going to do for THEM?!! Nothing.

Amen Elizabeth.

Our small suburb's mayor just got booted out after authorizing the razing of 5 long-time, solvent, tax-paying old-fashioned independent businesses, sending their building to a landfill in favor of an upscale mixed-use complex near the main intersection of our tiny historic downtown area.

The new complex never got built. This happened almost four years ago. We now have an eyesore vacant lot in place of an historic building and the sales/real estate tax revenues the business owners generated, and a few less jobs in our community.

Just another case for the 'things that make you go hmmm' files. Those politicians better remember who they're representing if the want to keep their jobs, especially with issues like this with so much grass-roots support.

Well, the farm would be taxed, Bev, and as of now, they get nothing. But I see what you mean.

Bev - is right. Sadly, tax-dollars and not what the citizens actually want or need drive political decisions. Congrats to Habitat for Humanity for garciously stepping aside on this one.

I think people seem to be really excited about buildings. Unfortunately. Even garden-related businesses are sometimes more excited about their buildings than their gardens, or their garden-related merchandise.

Public gardens get all lathered up when they open a new building. When they renovate a garden? Not so much-unless it includes a building.

How about a garden center that would rather put a building on its advertisement than a bunch of beautiful plants they sell? I don't get it at all.

Additionally, for me, gardening is not optional. I have to garden. Like, I kind of freak out if I can't garden. I adore having my own home for the first time so that I can dig up the entire yard for gardens. Or, at least half of the yard.

I recently suggested a community garden be built in a vacant, run-down acre lot directly across the street from a community center. I was told two things: the vacant lot was going to be turned into a parking lot for the center and other nearby businesses; gardens "don't belong downtown." It's cars over people -- once again. Peg

Lack of education is part of it, Elizabeth. People who don't garden, especially in urban areas, assume that produce just kind of appears wrapped in plastic (we currently live near Penn State, but before lived in Pittsburgh - home of the great garden writer Doug Oster, but I digress).

So they don't get the benefits of a community garden. What Peg said is also true - some folks believe that urban gardens don't belong. If it's green, it must be surrounded by concrete and covered with bark mulch.

Two other things that I have seen in pushback against community gardens:

- Allegations of attracting vermin: people will say a garden will attract rats, "bad" insects, etc. Because, you know, dumpsters don't.

- Pollution: Yes, I have seen/heard this - we don't want fertilizer runoff into the sewage system. Okay, fine, the gardeners can do something about that, and probably much more than a parking lot developer will do.

Sometimes change is slow.

Some powerful people are stupid.

Some powerful and stupid people will never change.

One change that I see is in how news of bad decisions gets handled. It used to be only dealt with by the local newspaper but those days are numbered. With opinions being expressed freely, bad decision makers will be more accountable for their actions OR they will have to become much better at explaining themselves.

Nowadays I see blogs and just plain internet chatter not being swept under the rug like things were in the old days. With the tough economic times, people aren't willing to sit idly by and let bad decisions go unnoticed.

If there are plenty of vacant lots to choose from then it sounds like there are plenty of other options.

Have your friends look for property that is already zoned for agriculture or mixed use.

If they are steadfast on setting up a agricultural business in a residential area then they must be prepared to have the zoning changed and or augmented.
If they can afford to have the zoning changed then everybody in Buffalo who lives in a residential zone should be delighted when a business , agricultural or a Walmart, moves in next door.

I understand why you are up in arms about not having this one family run 'garden' venture granted a permit , but consider how the city's planning and building department is set up.
By allowing a business venture to be set up in a residential zone you set prescident.
Will you be just as happy when a dog breeding facility/ business or a liquor store is given a business permit right in the middle of a residential neighborhood ?
If so, then get the community to approve a zoning change in your quiet residential neighborhood and be prepared for the change that will be coming next door to you.

Thanks Michelle. Every zoning variance (and I am not totally sure one is needed in this case) is considered separately on its own merits and according to the needs of the area where it is requested.

I am not in any way concerned that allowing this farm will bring a kennel or walmart to my block because there is absolutely no fear of that. There is no "one size fits all." A farm fits here; it wouldn't everywhere.

Looks like its time to vote a local master gardener to the city hall. You could appropriatly call it a "grass roots movement"

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