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Rebecca, I find my city hens incredibly easy and rewarding. But I gave up on the idea of letting them range because they constantly made their way onto my screened porch through the cat door, making a complete mess of the floor.

They also found the weaknesses in our perimeter fence and had to be retrieved from under the porch of the house across the street.

Given what a powerful homing instinct they have, we do let them out of their yard an hour or so before dark. They eat a bit of grass then and peck a little, but don't go far.

Rebecca - Love your chicken story. In high school, I had to care for 200 chickens - and these birds were vicious. Stupid and vicious - a dangerous combination. Now, the closest I want to come to a chicken is scrambled eggs.

Great dose of realism, Rebecca. So much that is related to farming seems to be romantic to city dwellers until they actually try it.

Oh geez- you sound like my husband! Haha! I want chickens- I had them as a kid growing up on a nice farm and they were a lot of fun to have around. And since we already seem to tick our neighbors off doing nothing- we might as well have a reason right? Needless to say my husband has a thing against poop. I'm pretty sure all it would take was him stepping in a pile once, and we'd be having chicken enchiladas for dinner.

Imagine 20 wild turkeys patrolling the grounds on a regular basis. Good thing there is plenty ground to cover.

You bring up some excellent points. I've never had chickens, have hardly seen any, and yet have a misinformed opinion like many others. However, here in my home town they're outright banned, and that's not right either.

I fully support those who wish to raise chickens and deal with chicken bombs even though I have no desire to raise any, so for me the question of excess government regulation and authority is more the issue than the trials of owning chickens.

Having said that, I guess it would certainly be the city authorities having to deal with the noise/smell complaints from any negligent owners, so perhaps there's a moral to this...

Anyway, thanks for illuminating the vague points of why I didn't want chickens in my yard in the first place.

One of my neighbors when I was a kid had chickens, and the rooster had it OUT for me. I swear he became enraged every time he saw me. He'd chase me across the yard and occasionally catch me... A chicken coop gives me the chills to this day. That said, I still put chickens in the "Things I Like In Theory" category. Too bad I can't face them in reality, since my wonderful in-town neighbors would be thrilled if I had chickens.

At one point I'd considered guinea fowl for tick control (I live in CT), but the noise they create made me rethink that idea. I hadn't considered the poop everywhere ... Ha!

The first time I saw a friend's chickens leaping to get at the leaves of their tiny avocado tree, I knew that chickens in my garden would be a bad idea. But still, I do long to find them a space of their own in the yard.

Here's another funny story I forgot to mention - I had one chicken that LOVED me, not for my charming personality but because I'd toss it bugs as I gardened. She was my shadow. And (I hate to admit this, being a gardener and all..) I happened to hate the big spiders that make their webs face-height, so I'd pick her up and hold her at arm's length and she'd suck down that spider. It was a win-win situation, and actually kinda fun!

Like many, I have been longing for chickens in the yard, and have only been stopped by my husband, the local fox, and my reluctance to have yet another animal depend on me.

This was a great view into the reality of owning chickens. For now, I will continue to buy my eggs from my local farmer.

When I was 8, Henny Penny and Cocky Locky were murdered in their coop by a big bad wolf, (or raccoon or coyote or fisher). I never recovered. I am not sure I have a feathered thumb, so I stick to plants. But, I admire my chicken-farming friends, (and the eggs they happily share).
I love this post Susan. You can make me laugh. Humor is such a fine quality in a human being.
-Michaela

Man, I've had 3 "ladies" for a few years now, and I haven't had the level of problem you've had at all. Never get a silkie -- they KNOW how pretty they are. As for the commenter who took care of 200 vicious chickens: of course they were vicious; 200 hens is like a hen New York City, so it's squawk or be squawked at for them. My hens come out some times. For parties, no way -- they beg for food just like a dog. Do hens poop on the ground? Yes, but we just hose off the patio every now and then. Mostly hens poop where they're eating, so most of it is in the grass, where it dries up quickly.

Animals will take whatever you give them... and more. Like my dog or my cats, if I give an inch, the hens will take a mile. I put chicken wire fencing around my garden beds, because, yes, hens like your plants WAY more than the insects they're supposed to be eating. Chicken wire fence = happy me, frustrated hens.

I'm in no way romantic about raising my ladies, and I live on 1/6 acre, total suburban lot. When the hens squawk, either from laying an egg (you would too) or because one of them is in a laying box that another wants, or whatever, it's over in 2 minutes. Compare that to my neighbor's dog who barks all day long. Early on, I bought all of my neighbors' good will with a dozen eggs for each. No complaints ever.

I'm sorry your chicken experience was so far from reality, but I'm here to say that everyone else's reality can be a lot closer to that romanticized "Suburban Chicken Myth" we keep reading about.

OOPs, my apologies Rebecca! I saw "posted by Susan Harris", and missed the fact that this is a guest post. Open keyboard, insert muck boot. Correction: Love this post Rebecca, (and yours too Susan) !
-Michaela

Wonderful post, Rebecca! My ex and I always talked about having chickens (and goats and an orchard and a future together) but I have never really had chicken lust. There is something in their eyes that makes me think of lizards with feathers (which I suppose is kind of what they are) and since I can barely tolerate the meows of an insistent cat, constant calls from the girls in the coop would NOT be for me! Thanks for the morning chuckle!

I have enough problems getting anyone else but me around here to pick up after the dog - definitely not adding chickens to the mix!

Okay, I gotta defend chicken-keeping. I have three hens in an urban yard. They are far less trouble than my cats, goldfish, children, or husband--and are the only household members that give me eggs.

As in gardening, you have to select the right varieties and learn how to manage them.

I, too, have three hens and have not had any problems. I resisted getting the girls for a long time even though my husband really wanted them. I was worried about the poo, the stink, the work, etc. Plus we live in a posh suburb where "being green" is not the cool thing to do. I wanted to prove to myself - and others - you didn't have to be "off beat" to enjoy raising chickens. We built a beautiful coop and just like everything else around the house, if you maintain it on a very regular basis it's not a big deal at all.

Okay you 'chicken defenders'....I would LOVE to know any tips you might have on keeping the girls quiet in the morning when they start calling for you...do yours do that? Mine would start at 5:30 sometimes and wouldn't stop until I came out there to let them out. They have a spacious coop, so that's not the problem, they just wanted to roam and pillage. They'd go on and on for 30 minutes at a time! The stink was never a problem, just the actual 'bombs' all around my garden....my daughter is begging me for more and I may succumb next Spring should you have some ideas for me.....thanks!

I liked this post and just want to ask all the 'chicken defenders' to please quiet down and let Rebecca speak.

Too often we hear only about the upside of things in gardening, never the downside -- like native plants with invasive tendencies, or having to comb worm poop out of the vermicomposter by hand, or how you are pretty much chained to the vegetable garden at harvest time and how do you get your family to eat 17 bushels of zucchini.

The downside of these situations needs to be aired so people can make informed decisions and find methods that work for them. Insisting that doing this or that is "easy" and anyone who doesn't think that way is "doing it wrong" is not helpful to newbies -- and this is what precipitates fads that catch on like wildfire and then fade over time. People go in with the wrong ideas and then are overwhelmed by problems along the way.

Great advice about chickens. So many things I didn't know.

Well, I can't say that you're wrong about any of this, but I do love my chickens. Of course, we have plenty of room and I have a nice little fence around the vegetable garden that discourages them from eating the lettuce. As for all the other plants and flowers, I just put up with a little bit of damage--and yes, hose off the sidewalk after they go back into their coop. The reward is fresh and healthy eggs and entertaining pets. Worth it? Yes, indeed.

Robin

Michaela's comment about a night critter killing her chickens is a problem even in suburbs. Racoons are so smart they often work in teams, one scaring the chickens so they run to the opposite side of the cage where a second is waiting to reach into the cage, grabbing the chicken and pulling it up against the wire where the racoon will proceed to prepare it's dinner. A smaller size opening on chicken wire can be a deterent for this type of night raid. Experience speaks.

Yes, mother. I have those horrible memories burned in mind - something a small child should never see!! We used hardware cloth with small openings, and lined the bottom as well as the side of the cages with that to keep burrowing critters out as well and had great success with it. The raccoons would still torment them, though, as we'd find muddy 'paw prints' on their coop door, scratching in the middle of the night trying to get in. The nightmares those chickens must've had!!

Now this is the kind of chicken info I need! Good to know that the purchase of fences for the garden and hosing of decks & patios are in my future if I end up getting chickens. Not to mention cautious walking in the yard, and tolerance of chicken calls. and possible raccoon carnage. Eek.
I still find the fluffy Buff Orpingtons and such pretty tempting, though.

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