Beyond Pesticides



Checked on Bonide from OSHA:

THeir products are toxic to fish.  Cancer? "Findings do not indicate a health risk to human beings."  Results for (error)Bayer Advanced:  Bayer Advanced   Unreadable, interpretable by public. 
From Beyond Pesticides:


This seems great and who are they:   xxxxxxxx     Dangers to Wildlife   
Great info compiled by Beyond Pesticides   

This pesticide Information site
Pesticide Action Network is produced by  See Bayer story on the home page, right column.)
THey have, which is better, has product search – good. 
On Roundup: totally confusing, actually looks fine.  Has nothing but question marks, not listed as "bad actor" Only lists "potential" for groundwater contam.  SEe Dirt  Doctor study links for Roundup.
On DEET : not a "bad actor", slight" toxicity, cancer is "unclassifiable" and other problems list qustion nmarks.
On Serenade: crapp info – looks just like Roundup – all ??s (It’s bacillkus subtilis)

Beyond P on Bt: Rated least toxic, but toxic to bees.  Bacillus Thuringiensis
On DEET:  Rated toxic, with lots of human dangers.  CDC recommends it to prevent West Nile, however, saying it’s safe.  Some bad links. What method of application??  One study of a 3-year-old whose "body, bedclothes and bedding were sprayed each nite for 2 weeks with 15 percent Deet" – GawD!
In adults, problems with "extensive Deet exposure" – what does that mean?  Workers at Everglades Nat’l Park were studied, so probably very extensive.  Deet is absorbed from skin and distributed to all organs, including brain and fetus.  Excreted in milk in urine.

On Glyphosate: toxic, (cancer, neurotox, kidney/liver) but no enviro effects.  Insert ingredient links to pneumonia, etc.  "Exposure to Gly can cause " – more info nee3ded about "exposure"
On Serenade: not listed
Beyond P needs to list PRODUCTS, dammit.  Also, there’s no site search.  Offers no "least toxic" for black spot.  Very incomplete, confusing. Can’t find Neem at all, though it has other botanicals.  Looking at staff bios, good people, though.

On Deet, says formulations range from 4 to 100 percent!! Used by 1/3 of us population every year.  As long as directions followed, they "do not present a helath concern."  Repels disease-carrying isnects and ticts.
On Roundup: POtnetial to cause kidney damage and reproductive effects IF used above MCL (maximum contaminat level) which is totally unusalbe info.  It’s strongly absorbed into soil, with little potential for leaching into groundwter.  Microbes in soil are readily and completely degraded

On bacillus subtilis – good info, including that it colonizes roots.

Organic doesn’t mean safe.  Botanical doesn’t mean safe.  Remember nicotine!

Penn State’s Coop Ext Plant Disease Facts suggest 12 different chemicals for black spot on roses, no negatives listed, no cultural solutions (I think)


Serenade’s site: